Iliopsoas tendinitis. In a healthy abdomen, deep work shouldnt be a problem I do mention thatI merely wrote this to highlight that things can get worse when a perfect storm of circumstances occur. I am level 5 trained sports and remedial soft tissue therapist and was taught to work on psoas but dont because of the reasons you outline. So then what should one do, if one has a psoas that needs to be released? Viral infection: Viral infections, like stomach bugs, can cause temporary PD and make your digestive tract extra sensitive. The truth is, rampant incompetence plagues the practice of therapeutic massage. I live in Ontario, Canada. 1. Youre totally right. Those parts are my observations and warning. Thanks. I had it intensely for 1.5 years and then it went away for about 4 months. I find this article very interesting. The abdominal aorta is particularly vulnerable in my opinion. Introduction. The reason is that crossfit is not just exercise, it is a social part of your life. Its hard to tell without a proper assessment so the above physios would be good to sort something out with so you can get some answers going forwards. Do we stretch? thank you for any feedback. I was sent to pelvic floor physical therapy for a stabbing pain in my lower right side. Elite Chiropractic Does Sitting Cause Your Hips To Get Tight? Addressing them all, as well as giving appropriate exercises to the client is necessary. Cheap Therapy: DIY Recovery & P.T. Reasons to release your abdominal fascia: Releasing the restrictions and tightness in the abdomen can bring space and fresh blood to the area, which makes for healthier organs, better breathing and easier digestion. I always tell crossfitters to go to the gym even post-surgically and attend your regular class times. Since then I have experienced a deep aching in my right groin area. Furthermore, I dont typically view the psoas as the be-all-end-all cause of the clients problems, but rather one of several/many muscles stuck in an imbalanced holding/movement pattern. They believed it as due to nerve damage, and began highly medicating him. When the psoas takes that job, it means something wrong is happening in the background. However with that said if you know your A&P you can treat the psoas and illiposoas effectively without harming your client. Im feeling so sick, but I know it wasnt from him I felt this wayong before I went to my appt. One of 3 things can happen: Also, the diaphragm and the psoas muscles are connected through fascia that also connects the other hip muscles. The best we can do, I guess, is continue to do what youve done here, and point out the need for competent education and evidence-informed practice. It is also the reason why I dont speak specifically about these as I could base a whole website on the reasons why psoas is overactive. I call bull $@!# on that one. These courses are often restricted to physios, chiros and osteosthat is not to say your massage therapist isn't trained, it is just much more unlikely. Thirdly, the idea of aggressively working on a soft tissue ailment is inteslf ridiculous. The only other ways Ive had mine treated is with muscle energy and contract-relax. Acute PD. Upon taking this class, I was able to pinpoint the pain when having my psoas released. I still want to know WHY you should decrease the amount of automaic activation in a muscle before you release it. If the legs are stationary the action of it is a bend the spine forward; if sitting it stabilizes and balances the trunk. ,I appreciate it! I get excellent results with my technique but it is rather uncomfortable if the muscle is in a state of dysfunction, or in deep spasm. I ended up getting that hip replaced a year later - never had any other problems. I get regular CT scans and nothing is showing on them. The point is that Karin became unwell after seeing a well qualified therapistshe didn't just ask a friend to help hershe did the right thing and the therapist did as well. A single incident or saying, this happens more often, is not empirical data or statistics. press on structures without truly knowing what they are pressing on! When you lie on your back, does your leg flatten out for the most part, or does it lift slightly from the hip and bend slightly at the knee on the side of the painful psoas? But just because you can release the psoas by finding and fixing those other connections doesnt mean youve necessarily fixed the cause, especially if releasing the psoas fixes some of those other issues, which it sometimes does. You say that we should be more concerned about the cause, and while I agree, the truth, as I see it, is that knowing the cause for certain is often like knowing the truth for certain. Unless the OS condition was only on one leg, which begs the question, what other musculoskeletal imbalances are still present which might have caused the OS condition on one leg and not the other?. In relaxed settings; slow, cautious, and well executed deep tissue techniques can be used to release trigger and tender points as well as chronic hypertonic issues. If everything is clear, then try to find someone who can help you through pain. I explained that it could happen to anyone including me. No one in the medical world seems to have any real workable solutions. But the key is knowing orgin and insertion and what other muscles are tied to them and you need to know the persons health history. Can you really add true length to a muscle in an hour? It left my outer thigh numb, so I thought I did something to my femoral nerve. It is a common problem. Ive been doing a fair amount of abdominal scar tissue work the last few months, always have to take it slow! One of the ligaments (the medial arcuate) wraps around the top of each psoas. She did all kinds of strength tests in which I believe only 1 caused me discomfort. I am now seeing a gastroenterologist to figure out the cause. 4. Other muscles seem to be fine. How would you release a muscle from a contracted state if it is not affecting neural activity? Hello, my friend! Im never letting anyone do it again. There is a lot of new research that indicates that scar tissue from surgeries is a leading cause of pelvic pain in women. I allowed the fast, uncontrolled movement to pulse through my body, shaking both shoulders, before it slowed and stopped after a few moments. She said, it would feel like she is ripping out my ovaries. Reblogged this on Eddie Teran, CMT and commented: PSO-Mini Muscle Release Tool and Handheld Personal Self Massager - Mini Deep Tissue Massage Tool - Night Black $19.99 ($19.99/Count) Product Description Product details Is Discontinued By Manufacturer : No Product Dimensions : 10.7 x 5 x 5.3 inches; 1.15 Pounds Item model number : PSO-RITE-NB What if there is another explanation for what you are going through? However, if you use some sort of technique to reprogram the brain not to perceive the pain in a certain area, when the pain is caused by a harmful problem, that doesnt mean youve solved the problem; it only means that youve eliminated the symptom, in which case you may as well be prescribing opioids. However, I would like to add that I have found that working the Iliopsoas directly very valuable, especially with people who have chronic LBP. , What about self-release through GENTLE stretching or VERY gentle rolling on a soft 6-inch therapy ball? 1. 2. Started getting a slight pain in my hip, then down my leg, severe muscle cramps in thigh and calf of leg. You can rupture an ovarian cyst, irritate endometriosis scars, or bruise kidneys, the ureters or bladder. I wish I could work that out for you but unless you come to Australia, LA, Orlando, Chicago or Pittsburgh, it is tough to help. Beyond the quantity of food and speed of eating, the macronutrients of your first meal also affect . Sorry if there was any confusion. In this case, do I think working on the papas and fascia worth it? The psoas muscle pain treatment plan is comprised of 4 parts: Psoas muscle massage; Psoas muscle stretches You dont feel nauseous, you feel nauseated. Therapy should never really hurt. . I ended up taking advanced training with a massage therpaist/chiro who works specifically in the psoas because of my own abdominal/pelvic pain. It most instances, proper stretching and changing of certain sitting habits has done wonders. If you read my comment and the comment I was answering, he was asking if OS can be the cause of his back pain via a fascial connection to his psoas. I know bones, muscles, nerves, viscera etc etc. Please see your doctor to clear all the possible nedical reasons first. Fascia is everywhere. Pingback : Barefoot Massage and the Belly | Heeling Sole. 3. Karin told me she saw someone last week twice and during that time there were lots of "adjustments" and her "Psoas" was released fairly aggressively (Karin's description). Last week I got so desperate that I ordered a DVD set I found online for releasing your psoas. Whether that is a significant fact or not is uncertain. The blocks make sure that your thighs remain parallel throughout the pose, which prevents the psoas muscles from externally rotating (which can cause back pain). Stabilizes the core. Hurts to sit and stand. He said back to work after 1 week. My movement is getting much slower, I look like I just had surgery when I walk, hope that makes sense, the light headedness is coming more often and I started feeling sick to my stomach, feeling of throwing up kept arising. Sorry. Get plenty of healthy fluids before, during, and after your workouts. In what way do u work u ? As you breathe properly your diaphragm moves and your psoas muscles gently massage these organs, stimulating blood circulation. Food allergies and intolerances Allergies to foods such as cow's milk, soy, cereal grains, eggs, and seafood may cause chronic diarrhea. 3. i dont know if i should go back to her or see another dr. Antony, do you have any good physio referrals in Denver, Colorado? check out her site, books and such easy info to digest and integrate on RELEASING the psoas, and move correctly to not engage it when not necessary. Thanks to anyone who can help me find he right doctors in La. CrossFit should therefor not use Olympic or power lifts as they do not actually enhance said fields. Thank you for this article. Ive been suffering with abdominal pain for over a year. My pain was extremely intense from top of my hip flexor through the groin and down into my left testicle on and off. Definitely tell your specialist and doctor about it. But, when the psoas muscles become imbalanced, so do your kidneys and adrenal glands, causing physical and emotional exhaustion. I would really appreciate hearing your thoughts. With the massive increase in "mobility" exercises, drills, and not to mention "things" you can buy to help release muscles, more people than ever are interested in keeping their body in good shape and releasing muscles - This is a good thing. I do have pelvic tilt/rotation/Si joint misalignment, and seeing the chiropractor helps a lot, so I think the psoas problem is a trickle down effect from Si joint issues, as I get pain there, my lower back and in my glutes and lower TFL band on the opposite side of the psoas pain. There are many different ways to release a contracted psoas, only one of which includes manual massage. But unless you are very skinny (like a model), it is unlikely to get into the psoas. Now my inner thigh is tingling & going numb. Chronic diarrhea -- diarrhea that lasts at least four weeks -- can be a symptom of a chronic disease. I agree that any release in the abdomen should be performed by a skilled practitioner. I asked if there werent organs there that were being mashed and she said (direct quote) I dont know about organs, I just know about muscles. I was stunned. This is the equivalent of race baiting, by using hysteria and mis-information. Both times killed me (so much pain both during the release and for a week after) and theres no way Im ever letting her do it again after reading about the risks here. I would investigate the possibility that the pain may be neural in origin. You have to go through all the tissues in the body I talk about in this article just to get to the psoas and even then, how do you know it is the psoas that was the effect you produced? Thank you for supplying these links. Yeah, I wouldnt be so hasty to get that done again! PSOAS RELEASE. My massage therapist is convinced that this would help myriad problems associated with my scolosis and consequent equinus. Quadriceps Stretch I find the technique to roll to side and let gravity drop the inside contents after I have raised leg to bent position which identifies the psoas helpful. Urologists recommend TURPs which dont fix the problem and causes more problems too. They usually just get out of the way but sometimes they can get pinned down. Feel free to find me to ask me more. They can either help you or direct you to someone closer. Lift your hips away from the floor and roll up through the spine. I have a number of friends in the LA area start with asking Julie Wiebe (juliewiebept.com) and go from there. Especially since the psoas muscle sandwiches the lumbar spine. You can puncture the colon, which does not move, and which stands between you and your vulnerable clients psoas. 1. I just think the reasons why are debatableI dont cling to my reasons and I dont think anyone else should either. I work everything in and aground the abdomen, starting with the obliques and transverse abdominis, and working my way deeper. I am also recovering from a disc replacement 360 fusion. Hi Pearl. What if it is your superficial nerves that are upset? Is this a possible psoas problem? Hey Marco Im sorry, I dont have any specific contacts off the top of my head in Colorado. My rule is that it shouldnt hurt at all and if so a few diaphragmatic breaths should reduce the tone and thus any accompanying discomfort. Best wishes & Gratitude. It isnt always Psoas but a majority of the time it is. Ive never had ibs before this condition and my ibs symptoms went away after I got better for this 4 months and hasnt returned now that I have symptoms again. I hope it will be part of your book:), Marianne Ryan PT, OCS MRPT Physical Therapy http://www.mrptny.com Phone: 212-661-2933. When you flex the hip beyond 90 degrees you are effectively wrapping the psoas around the inguinal ligament. Thats just one possibility. Have you ever considered why the muscle is in spasm? To say frustration and disappointment is part of us, as sufferers, daily lives is an understatement. Youd best spend your time finding someone to help you move as many ways as possible. Understanding why you have pain and how to improve it is key. But if you look at the bigger picture, a tight iliopsoas often presents with tight glutes, hams or quadsand sometimes all the above. The only way to get to the triggers is to make sure all the muscles between the psoas and your skin are relaxed. Im honestly most concerned about my ovary because she pretty much did most of the release right where my ovary should be located (to the upper left of my uterus, above my pelvic area). We love doing things that "hurt so good"damaging internal organs shouldn't be one of them! Of course I cant say what kind of scar tissue is built up in there and what other muscles are contributing, but I do know the psoas tension comes about a week before my cycle begins and feels relief with release. Place the lacrosse ball toward your bellybutton, just a little bit lower than the hip bone (about 2 finger breadths). Abstract. After 20 years of this, I cracked the code ( for me at least). My wife always thought I was a liar and that it was all in my head too. The level of education for physiotherapists / chiropractors and osteopaths fairly standard as they are university degree courses. I have so many issues I dont even know where to start. You are massaging the recIt is indeed a strange phenomenon. She tried to put up with it (she is a tough girl) but couldn't get any sleep that night and every time she moved, she had severe pain. Even though its quite scary to read about, Im grateful for you for posting regarding the risks of psoas release. The OS told me the psoas tendon was terribly inflamed and very swollen at the time. Some thought should always be used when participating in any physical activity. I had to struggle for an hr just to try to get to my feet. Thanks again for a great post! Im sure there are lots of physios that are goodjust got to find them! Great post! This therapist has a good reputation and is well trained and it could have easily been me, a physio, a chiro, a massage therapist or osteopath (except I don't go aggressively for Psoasmore on that later). Thanks and sorry that i misunderstood. By I think you understand this. Ibs? This article has changed my mind. You are using fear mongering terminology to establish you hysteria. Karin is recovering in hospital still as I write. Problems digesting carbohydrates or proteins can prolong diarrhea. Do you have a referral in my area? What.advice do u have for me.. I look forward to comparing professional notes. We agree that there is an unhealthy trend of undereducated people obsessing over the psoas needing to be released without really understanding the psoas and its relationship to other structures. These arteries lie in front of and next to the Psoas musclesif you feel a pulse, DON'T RELEASE IT! Start about 2-3 laterally to the umbilicus and slowly move from superficial to deep until you can't move any further. The ASIS was not was I referring to and I wasnt confused. I just had a massage therapist stick their hand in my abdomen to test the psoas. I have been working on the psoas for over 15yrs and have physical therapist, orthopedics and chiropractors refer people to me that they can not help and get results. Greg Lehman is in Toronto. Btw I use release too, just add pain free to it. Thats another example of the brain misinterpreting stimuli. You have to also be mindful that you cannot tough anything in isolation. The deep pain I had experienced is gone, but the aching feeling persists. She did a lot of very painful manipulation to the psoas muscle, and she also did dry needling to the muscle which lead to bruising and a stinging pain. Do you have any good referrals for physios in Chicago? 7. I also am a internationally Board Certified Neuromiscular therapist. I love your approach of challenging your own beliefs/assumptions/paradigms. Maybe it is on because it is trying to protect something. I treat the muscles in the iliopsoas group fairly regularly in people who have low back pain, laterally rotated femurs, or lateral torso flexion to name just the most common instances. Hi! Osgood and psoas. It ruins lives and affects millions of us. Thanks for your reply. Your post is absolutely AMAZING! Pat, you make some great points, and really interesting reading. She has had some issues in the past that I have helped with. It is unlikely she did any damage but that kind of treatment is, in my opinion, unnecessary. Firstly, the deep tissues of the body often hold complex hypertension and are often neglected due to the more technical stretching and therapy they need to release them. 1. If I can help people get better by doing basically the opposite of what my paradigm tells me to do, what does that mean about my paradigm? Specialty training and advancing your body work education obviously enhances therapist performance. If it stays open too long, or spasms and gets stuck in the open position it can cause frequent diarrhea . When she contacted me, I told her to go straight to emergency as I thought she had a ruptured appendix. I agree. Never experienced that release and after eight months, I have zero pain since that. Replenish lost fluids with water and . Id also like to add you cant really release tissues in the way that most clinicians think you can, as in mechanically. You said that psoas tension comes the week before your cycle beginsis it the psoas? No deep tissue work. I have chronic QL tightness and I know that must be a contributor as well. Try to avoid overarching your lower back. I do still believe that the psoas can be safely and effectively massaged but you clearly need to be incredibly careful and absolutely certain that what you are touching is indeed the psoas. You are a Physio. The best is obviously to go see someone who understands CrossFit, the operation you had and the effects of post surgical scarring. 4- Pelvic Instability: It can also react this way when there is dysfunction in the pelvis - the psoas will react to take up any slack in pelvic stability. To be honest, Osteopaths traditionally are taught "visceral manipulation". Thank you for this blog post. Antony, To increase ROM in hip extension, to decrease lumbar lordosis and anterior pelvic tilt or to increase hip internal rotation. None of his Doctors knew what to do with him, or how to help. 4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars (35) $39.99 $ 39. 6. The massage therapist asked *me* to locate my left psoas muscle by moving my hand several inches to the left of my navel. 8. Internal snapping hip syndrome, or psoas tendonitis, is a recognised cause of nonarthritic hip pain. Either way, if you experience bladder symptoms, you should see someone about that. It makes my pain lower but its still there. The two surgical options for iliopsoas tendinopathy are step lengthening of the iliopsoas tendon or releasing the tendon at the lesser trochanter. A valve stuck in the closed it can cause tightness in the abdomen, cramping and ultimately constipation and toxicity. I greatly appreciate ur article, & ur site. I had abdominal surgery three years ago for appendix cancer that ruptured and had spread to other organs and had a total hysterectomy, appendectomy and omentectomy. I have to disagree. Wish I would know that earlier, now just light exercising and stretching.. At least until I can do more detailed research on it. Then the heat started. The best way to assess injury is to ask a MD to help you find out. I don't want to bother u w/ my case so tell me if i am. Thank you, sir. The condition occurs when the psoas musclethe long muscle (up to 16 inches) in your backis injured. Well, it is said that 90% of your serotonin is found in your GI tract. westchester general hospital ceo. It is muscle system pro III not entirely accurate but not too bad . You'll feel a great stretch along your thigh and hips. Don't just let anyone stick their fingers or foot or implement into your guts. It was on the left side. Oh man, so glad I checked back here. They just do what they are told. No more deep tissue work. After work-out (now it's almost everyday) I practice stretching of the whole body including specific and global stretchs. But when diarrhea lasts beyond a few days into weeks, it . The latter of these two is obviously more efficient (when it works) because you can go work on something else while the psoas is releasing. 8. I really like the technique show by erson religioso shown here: http://www.themanualtherapist.com/2011/08/technique-highlight-psoas-release.html?m=1. Also doing light flushing strokes with finger tips toward the belly button helpful in lymphatic clearing as well as quing a hamstring release. You defo shouldnt be trying to feel your actual spine through your tummy. Im open to suggestion on other ways to release the psoas! By the end of the year, I was (still am) having blood in my stool (and, alas, the back issues continue!). One thing I like to use myself is the Yamuna balls. It sometimes ignores what its actually seeing, because of what it assumes its seeing. Maybe I should mention to my gastro? Common causes include viral infections, such as norovirus, and bacterial infections, such as Clostridioides difficile (C. diff). I actually prefer to release the iliacus portion along the iliac crest. Therefore irritating a nerve can make it feel like a strain. Please dont be afraid of Massage therapists based on this blog as this is a complete fluke. So the warning is that if it can happen to me who knows what is going on, then imagine what can happen to people who dont know what is going on!? YES, if you lack the sensitivity to know what you are pressing on, dont do it. The lengthening happens with stretchingso I will often stretch that while they are on the table, and give them instructions on how to do it at home. If you dont mind I will reference your article. The popularity of psoas "work" usually meaning both the psoas major muscle and iliacus muscle is partly due to hype and mystique, and partly . PSOAS RELEASE. So while I think a simpler approach is better I would hesitate to scare people away from treating this muscle group. Kidneys? It gets better. One (that I know of) of my clients came to me injured from psoas massage and was thankful to find someone thoughtful and knowledgeable enough to avoid causing her any more harm. Even if it is for 30secs, I am wary of painful treatments. Hmm. Leave the body loose and try to relax every muscle and part of the body. I believe I wrote that. I continue strengthening the glutes and that is helping . I think about the same things!!! Ive notice if I keep moving its not too bad. I tend to have lumbar pain when the psoas is in spasm, as do most of my clients. Thanks! Iliacus is easier to access with less chance of pushing on anything we shouldnt be..and I often find that just by getting the triggers on iliacus is enough to remove the pain. Just wondering if some pain days later is normal, maybe if you have endometriosis? Back sometime a go about 10 years, I did had ulcerative colitis which ended up having 2 surgeries, large bowel removal/stoma bag and j-pouch creation. We cannot break up adhesions, scar tissue, or fascia. I am a LMT that specializes with athletes, specifically fighters. On the most basic level, eating too much or too quickly may upset your stomach, leading to diarrhea. Are u saying that : maybe the strain I feel isnt due to muscle(s) but to another neurologic mecanism ? Talk to our Chatbot to narrow down your search. Cheers. Just like you, Im a very well trained PT, and Ive been teaching Human Anatomy in Higher Education (Nursing and PT Colleges) for about 13 years in Brazil. Sometimes dull pain can be intense but still dull. Thanks for you sharing Anthony. Because of this, a tight psoas can affect the space within the abdomen. You are an adult - take this information and make an informed decision. However, to say that all CrossFit groupies have no lifting ability in an olympic or power event is profoundly stupid, as they do have gained speed, power, and strength. Monday: Three things to start doing. Fortunately, there is no pain. I would suggest you may have damaged something (possible but not likely in healthy tissue) or you release protective muscle spasm which allowed the client to move into a position of aggravation. I believe you can work on the psoas. Check the full list of possible causes and conditions now! If theres any other reason Id love people to share . Besides the infographic right below, this guide also has these: I have psoas issues myself, and I only find relief with direct pressure on it. Here, getting a BA in Physical Therapy is almost like going to a Medical School (at least 5 years). I aim to make change to peoples systems I often think about how to enter their brains via the classical articular system, myofascial system, neural system, visceral system, psychosocial and strategies for technique and function. Massage Therapists come in many variations, finding one with a specialty for a specific ailment is the general idea. They are soft, especially when not inflated all the way. Personally Ive been getting good outcomes in terms of releasing, reseting and even activating muscles using dry needling associated to intramuscular electrical stimulation. Pingback : Barefoot Massage and the Belly | Ashiatsu DeepFeet Bar Therapy's Blog. Im sorry that you are suffering from chronic pelvic pain. Its crazy how often this kind of situation you described has been happening. The Best Psoas Release - YouTube 0:00 / 6:24 The Best Psoas Release Essential Somatics 31.4K subscribers Subscribe 6.8K 619K views 3 years ago This is the best and most rapid psoas. I dont know if that is what eventually helped it or not.I had several doctors tell me it was all in my head, including my psychiatrist. I usually avoid abdominal work on clients unless absolutely necessary. Ive been diligently working on core strengthening, lower back muscles and psoas stretches but nothing seems to help. 3) Tight psoas also decrease circulation and innervation . Use an experienced degree-trained health professional who has experience in knowing about the internal organs and muscles. is punahou a boarding school. Walk your feet closer to your buttocks until the ankles are directly under the knees. Im wondering if its known which specific barefoot massage technique was involved, or if it was just a random use of a foot by an untrained person: you mentioned that the coach stepped on her psoas. The following Pilates and yoga exercises can help release the psoas muscle and facilitate deep diaphragmatic breathing to soothe the nervous system. You almost seem to believe that the psoas is never the problem as if you are fanatically certain of your newfound paradigm with a religious zeal. Some physios and chiros (like myself) have done courses on how to "listen" and take care of viscera. Words Have Power What Kind of Scars Are You Leaving Your Clients? I will approach this with care now. Id like to find a reason for the aching in my right groin area. How can you tell? My Chiro worked on my psoas at least 5-6x last year (to release adhesions causing lower back pain). Im sorry you feel that way, we could be such good allys in natural health care, but we massage therapists are trained in releasing nearly all the muscles of the body as long as we went to a good school, also our liability insurance rate comparatively reflects the damage incurred by MTs compared to Osteos and Chiros. I do think the viscera and arteries are pretty hardy in most people but there are risks in some populations. For many us battling hip dysplasia ,self release techniques is a daily regime . Very informative article, thank you. Thanks Drew. I am not saying that massage isnt effective. 1. I had the fusion 3 years ago. I will hit you before you can get deep enough to feel my spine. over the years, acupuncture, TRE, chiro, nfdt, have all helped. So if someone is trying to do that it does show a deficient knowledge in terms of abdominal anatomy. Two months later, he began experiencing abdominal pain. 4. It is a feedback loop, meaning that it goes both ways. It relates to the Anterior Superior Iliac Spine, which is the bony nobble at the front of your hips, on the ilium bone. Also, please call me Antony or I will call you Michal! Yep. Great post A! In side lying, you will still have stuff in the way. This is an intimate area so a full explanation of the technique to the patient is imperative as well a full communication during the process. To generalize that massage therapists are not as qualified, hence more dangerous is misguiding and again fear mongering. To experienced hands, intenstines feel like hollow sausages and definitely feel different to the psoas muscle. Anthony, I never usually comment online, but what u wrote re psoas is so important. The ITB 5 things you probably havent thought about doing to help it, Flat Butt / Glutes? We can change stretch perception and muscle tone. I have encountered tight psoas muscles where when applying some pressure to it will allow the muscle to relaxand it literally melts under my fingertips. 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