Like, I take you as the man you are in front of me. [3][4] In 1997, at the age of 25, he was arrested for attempted second degree robbery. This lady - her name was Claire. So they don't even have the opportunity to even go in front of the board to say, hey, look, for the last 21 years, I've changed, you know, because their board dates ain't till 2150, you know? GROSS: A job because you thought it was, like, your only source of income? Earlonne resides in the United States. And one of my goals has been for us to travel to other prisons, and I never wanted to do that without Earlonne. He does not, however, expose his wife's identity to the public. No. That was something that was volunteered to me. I went in and ended up in a security housing unit a couple of times for lengthy stays and just continued my pretty much destructive behavior all the way out. GROSS: That people can change and that you should look at the person and not just the crime - that you'd still be in prison, I mean? But I always go over to the fantasy game guys, and I'll just sit there for a minute and try to see if I even come close to understanding what's going on on that table. I enjoy every second of every day. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Woods, 47, was recently released from San Quentin State Prison after California Gov. I think it's about probably 20 people from there that call me collect. You end thinking, like, here's this guy who's very self-actualized. You're sitting across from law enforcement. I mean, I try to be, like, open and honest about my past and the things that I've done, including what I've done to get to prison. E WOODS: But I wouldn't have it no other way. He gave up his brother name. [12][13][14] Since his commutation, Woods has become involved in campaigns to repeal California's three strikes laws. "[9] The series is not overtly political, but Poor emphasizes the way the show can have a humanizing effect, making listeners care about the men they hear on the show and wonder why one of the hosts might serve a life sentence for attempted robbery. [9][7] Ear Hustle was the first podcast entirely recorded and produced inside a prison. You're more looking at what you're getting out of the situation. Tyler was sent to live with extended family. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. POOR: We can taste each other's food 'cause, you know, in prison you can't share food with people. And it was one of them, I guess could you say, moments where you just feel embarrassed about your previous conduct. E WOODS: It's the bay. Some might say that Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods were destined to meet. "[9] She also praised its originality, "[using] prisoners' storytelling skills to show what it's like to spend decades behind bars. In an op-ed for the Los Angeles Times, Lexi Mainland wrote "The runaway hit Ear Hustle never takes a broad look at criminal justice policy or employs Voice of God narration. And then I got into the lifestyle of robbing drug dealers. POOR: It is a different world over there. I told him that constantly. E WOODS: I don't - I think when you're living in the moment, you feel untouchable. I felt like in Earlonne I found a true professional colleague. And it really wasn't until I got into the healing circle that I understood what it was like to be a survivor of crime because in these circles, you're sitting across from crime victims. And when you're in that moment, I think it's more of crime to people in society that commit crime. They're very polite. Just to be out there with her.. But apparently it's fine - like, if you fall in love, the prisoner and the volunteer fall in love, that's fine as long as the volunteer or the staff person is no longer going to be working there in any capacity. E WOODS: So I think that goes into, like, what they call politics in prison and where, you know, you may have certain prisons that it matters what you're in prison for like - and it's a difference on a race level. Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. And then what worries me is, like, so people will leave with this very, like, I love this guy. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. You know, prison, I'm going to live to the best of my ability. When asked earlier this year what was the first thing he would do if he got out, Woods said, Take a bath. And I was - yeah, I was definitely nervous. (SOUNDBITE OF STEFANO BOLLANI AND JESPER BODILSEN AND MORTEN LUND AND MARK TURNER AND BILL FRISELL'S "ALOBAR E KUDRA"). So this is JERRY BROWN: It all goes to this point that something very bad happens, and people will say, OK, now we're putting you in jail for a very long time. I was just done. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. And it would give the people inside the opportunity to stretch themselves intellectually and emotionally, so just creating more of a connection. And my mindset, regardless of where I'm at, I'm going to live to the best of my ability. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. You have to go through a lot of E WOODS: Yeah, it's a lot of stuff you have to go through. I wouldn't spend time in a place that made me uncomfortable or I didn't like. And so I want to play an excerpt of that. SHAPIRO: Nigel Poor told us that when Earlonne Woods came back POOR: He was walking with a lot of air in his step. The rest of it is just an enhancement. E WOODS: It is - they see something that I can't see. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And I'm always interested in people who kind of fade into the background a little bit because I suspect they could be the most interesting people in the room. Jerry Brown. What we did was humanize [prisoners], just by telling their stories, Woods said in February. E WOODS: Well, I mean, it's cool, you know? So how do you keep going? Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence in November, and Woods regained his freedom after serving 21 years of his sentence. Jerry Brown is releasing Woods from San Quentin State Prison after two decades behind bars. And I'm playing this because it's about knowing where the line is when you're interviewing prisoners and sometimes to have to ask something that's going to make them uncomfortable. POOR: I know. And you also spent time in solitary, where it's very hard to stay sane. Through his podcast, [Woods] has shared meaningful stories from those inside prison.. I'd still be sitting in San Quentin in a cell with my brother. In 1997, he was sentenced to 31-years-to-life in prison. POOR: That's his obsession. So to hear Governor Brown say that, it was like this is how we actually think. She started going to San Quentin to volunteer teaching photography. "[15], The New Yorker's Sarah Larson said the show "might be the best new podcast Ive heard this year" and described it as being "about the creativity required to live a satisfying lifeor even a sane lifein prison, and is itself a product of that creativity. Earlonne is a brother to Shala Woods. And I got out in '95. Our senior producer today is Roberta Shorrock. And he said Tyler got killed by the police. He likes to keep his personal life private hence Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his marital status. [8] Galen Beebe's review for The Atlantic called it a "brilliant series" which "return[s] some of the humanity that the carceral system removes and provide[s] a link between inmates and outsiders. I don't (laughter) take them for granted. He's also co-host of the podcast "Ear Hustle," which is why we had him on this program. A post shared by @earhustlesq on Mar 13, 2018 at 8:35pm PDT. They're waiting to get inside a club, and somebody from way across the street just shoot into the crowd, hit him in the heart, right? POOR: Earlonne described himself, and I described myself. GROSS: So Tyler's father, your brother, is still in San Quentin during the final year that you were in San Quentin. It received 1,537 entries from 53 countries. So it's been a real eye-opener for me. You know, when I was out for the two years 10 months, I raised Tyler, you know? And when I went in the second time, my friend Furman Little (ph) was killed the night we were arrested. And it just puts you in a whole different space, you know? GROSS: Their brothers are the people who live in a similar world of fantasy as opposed to defining their brothers as being, you know, a skin color or ethnicity. You know, at that particular moment, in that mindset - like today, am I OK with that? He is a man of average height. So you become accustomed to that lifestyle. And Jerry Brown was then the governor of California. Earlonne, tell us a little more about what happened to Tyler, how he was killed. It didn't work out, unfortunately. But it was just - it was spectacular. E WOODS: Well, I think - so I'll say this. It was like 2 in the morning. So what - what were the first communications like in which you tried to see, but is he a good interviewer? Wake up to the day's most important news. Since the podcasts launch in 2017, its been downloaded millions of times, featured in media outlets from NPR to The New York Times, and made several best of podcast rankings. E WOODS: He got a hell of a collection of vinyl. Nigel first went to San Quentin as a volunteer teaching photography. In 2016, it was selected by the Radiotopia network as the winner of its Podquest competition, and the following year released its first season. GROSS: So something I found really interesting is that the group that is multicultural and not segregated by race or ethnicity is the group that's into, like - the nerds, the group that are into, like, sci-fi fantasy and stuff like that. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). I'm fine working with him now. "Ear Hustle" features stories from prison told by prisoners - their intimate, honest conversations about family visits, cellmates, solitary confinement - conversations like this one between Earlonne Woods and his co-host Nigel Poor, who's not an inmate. It's something. You - you - you always feel that you're better than getting killed, like you would never get killed. E WOODS: Right. Other officers got involved. We'll be right back. He's able to call me collect. You're not really looking at the person. How do you deal with family, love, depression, having children, finding meaning in life? So I've technically only been free 20 years in my life, and, since I was 17, I've been free maybe three years all together. They said that, hey, when you went to jail when you were 17 - yeah, it was one time, but there was two convictions in that case. . And he's standing in a group. T WOODS: You know, he was ripping and running with the gangs. What's it like to not care about the person who you're robbing or the person who might be killed by a stray bullet? And a chase pursued. And he said the thing that all women fear is that I raped women because I could. I've never felt scared or disrespected. Or is he a good talker? Los Angeles, CA. FRESH AIR's executive producer is Danny Miller. But if we could just talk about it and come to some understanding about what's our responsibility, what's your responsibility? POOR: So we were in the media lab working and - you know, trying to work, trying to stay concentrated. Hae-soo married his non-celebrity bride on January 14, 2019, according to sources. So you recorded interviews with Trevor and Tyra talking about how difficult it is to maintain a relationship with your child when you're incarcerated and how difficult it is to help them stay out of trouble. They dont stay the same people that they were when they committed their crime. Woods learned of his commutation the day before Thanksgiving. On his release from San Quentin State Prison, Woods was hired full time to continue the work started inside but also adding reentry stories. And it's the way people would hope other people think that, hey, OK, I've done my time. So we're going to strike you out this time. GROSS: We talk about the podcast and before we talk about your work together, Earlonne, I want to talk with you about life outside. [6] While in San Quentin, Woods was unpaid for his work on Ear Hustle, though fans would often send him money. You know what I mean? And they shot at Tyler, like, 40-something times. Earlonne Woods is co-creator, co-producer and co-host of Ear Hustle from Radiotopia. T WOODS: One the 19 - November 19, 2013 - federal prison - we have phones, and we have emails. So what - one of the things that I've really taken away from being in prison is that I've gotten an incredible glimpse into what it means to be a man and what men deal with. And so I found out what you're in prison for. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . E WOODS: Right, right. I mean, there's two likely outcomes if you're robbing drug dealers. Why we living like we don't care - because this is somehow how we grew up and how - since as early teenager we've been living in the streets, in the gangs. When I called my mother, she told me this, right? California Gov. And they won't get that opportunity to present the person that they are today. Woods' sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to tell stories of life. They eventually met this person. Earlonne was born in 1972, in the United States. He went up there. He was hired to continue co-hosting and producing the podcast after his release. GROSS: Wait; so that means, like, you'd rather die than be E WOODS: Yes, yes. Also with us is Nigel Poor. I don't know. But you may have the African-Americans who go to prison and they're at certain places and you don't get that question. Earlonne became preoccupied with reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who had previously been incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. And it was very hard for that to not change the way I felt about him. It's - it's - I think being in a position to step away from it all and look back and say, man, I was on something else. Before creating the podcast, Woods and Poor did interviews with inmates in San Quentin for public radio station KALW in San Francisco. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. But the law don't see your rehabilitation. Woods was involved in an attempted robbery in 1997, when he was in his 20s. GROSS: And, Earlonne, I look forward to your interviews with people who, like you, are transitioning back into society from prison. I was on some - I would like to say other words, but I'm holding my (laughter) E WOODS: (Laughter) I'm on the radio. Bernard Antwi Boasiako, Lana Wolf, Eric Marcus, Robert Marawa, Who is Redmond ONeal? And I listen very carefully to how you talked about your relationship and how much you thought about it and how painful and joyous the whole experience was for you. Ear Hustle was the first podcast to be created entirely inside a prison. Earlonne Woods annual salary is $61,244 on average. And it's fine. And then Trevor was arrested when their son, Tyler, was 10. At the time, your brother and your nephew's mother, Tyra, were living what you describe as a life of crime together. And, like a lot of inmates, he's been thinking about this moment for a long time. "[6], Multiple reviewers noted how funny the show can be, despite often dealing with serious topics, and how uncommon it is to find humor in media taking place in real life prison settings. GROSS: So you know, you're a middle-aged man now. Usually, you can't go back into a correctional facility on parole. Earlonne, until the end of November, was a prisoner. But, as to being cool with it, it's what it is. Like, me personally, what I took away from a lot of things is that, yeah, I may have robbed a person for, let's say, $1. And when I went to prison, it was pretty much the California Department of Corrections, and there was not a rehabilitation on the name then. It's about a writer whose friend and former mentor kills himself. GROSS: That's the sound of the San Quentin prison door slamming as my guest Earlonne Woods was released in late November after being incarcerated there for seven years. You may be a changed individual, all the way changed, would never commit another crime. Once the details concerning Earlonne's marital status are available we shall update. Along with Nigel Poor, he is a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. So it be at prison, I'm going to enjoy my day every day because at the end of the day, this is all I got, you know? Vice President . POOR: Yeah, not skewed, not skewed. Like, all of a sudden, you know POOR: We'll be like regular colleagues. The victims of a crime are faceless. POOR: So one of the things is that I really believe that people change. Woods and Poor cohost the show while Williams does the show's sound design, working in San Quentin's media lab to record music and effects, including foley work. So I'm going to enjoy. And the thing that I noticed in particular about him was that whenever there was an issue going on - and, of course, inside prison, there's all kinds of issues - and if we would have to sit down to solve a problem, Earlonne was the one who would speak up, cut through all of the baloney and get to the point. You're able to go POOR: We're able to go out. Woods was raised in South Los Angeles with his parents and his older brother Trevor. T WOODS: I received an email from one of my partners. China. She inherits his dog, a 180-pound Great Dane, who, like her, is grieving. Earlonne, congratulations on life outside of prison. [7] Co-creators Woods and Antwan Williams were inmates at San Quentin State Prison for the first three seasons of the show. When asked earlier this year what was the first thing he would do if he got out, Woods said, Take a bath. GROSS: And - so you interviewed him about commuting your sentence. Content Creator @CoinAcademy; Pres. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. And so that's the point that I'm struck by - that human beings in a moment can do something with devastating consequences. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. [1][10] As of Season 4, Woods continues to make the podcast from outside prison, while Rahsaan "New York" Thomas was announced as a new co-host for recordings done inside San Quentin. I just stopped over there, went and sat on a rock and just watched the water for about an hour. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. And so to hear this is what happened to him - ah. Tyler had missed a court appearance, so he feared that he would be locked up. [9], On November 21, 2018, producer Earlonne Woods's sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. Aaron Taylor. And at the end of November, Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence. You know, they get to see each other in passing. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who were previously incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. E WOODS: I like my colors bright these days. POOR: OK. He is a podcast host correspondent. Earlonnes net worth is estimated to be $657,586. POOR: And it's going to be a little bit hard. You know, he calls me. Like, I just walked away, you know? And Earlonne just had his sentence commuted by Governor Jerry Brown in November after serving 21 years. Therese Madden directed today's show. It was - and it's not just her. I think my mother told me she loved Jesus more than she loved me. Like, what - why were we on this path, you know? Jerry Brown commuted his 31-years-to-life sentence for attempted armed robbery. [5], Prior to Ear Hustle, Poor ran a photography class at the prison during which one of her students proposed making a documentary. You know that it could be a possibility, but it's a possibility that you've seen pretty much your whole life, you know? explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. Tyra got arrested first for kidnap and robbery. His sentence was commuted yesterday. And he was always ready to help. But you look back, and you're looking at it like, I've wasted, like - I can say right now, I'm 47 years old. Woods helped create Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. I'm on a podcast. And they - and I received 31 years to life. "[9] The show's unique lens and intimate first-person storytelling is noted in most reviews. They grow up literally., In Browns letter announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime., He has set a positive example, Brown wrote. So you can't wear blue, which is what they wear. The responding officers shot him five times, killed him. Earlonne Woods (@earlonnewoods) Instagram photos and videos earlonnewoods Follow 225 posts 24.1K followers 931 following Earlonne Woods Public figure Award winning Co-Creator + Co-Host, @earhustlesq . GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle. Jerry Brown (D) has commuted the prison sentence of Earlonne Woods, whose hit podcast Ear Hustle explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. I took their security from them to even walk out the house and feel safe, you know? [7] They recruited fellow inmates Antwan Williams as the show's sound designer,[8] and submitted their idea for a podcast to a contest hosted by Radiotopia. So I still had a 17-year-old mentality. GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-creators of the podcast Ear Hustle. He was born and brought up in the United States to his caring and supportive parents. GROSS: Nigel, let me bring you into the conversation. Mentally, it do, you know? You start attending different self-help groups. In November 2018, Woods' sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. But of course when someone's in prison and the other person's not, there's so many things you can't do. Redmond O'Neal is a voice actor, Hollywood celebrity, and Star Kid from the United States. "[12] Woods later traveled to thank Brown and interview him for the podcast. 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